In McCabe Canyon just north and west of end of road. Grazing ended in 2003. Original point (665111e 4041341n) off. Manually moved to 665102e 4041344n. Entire stand is roughly a 40 x 10 m rectangle of Rosa californica, long axis is 30 degrees. Lots of dead rose stems. The rectangle curves along the long axis. Cow scat, deer scat.